Arrow rest question for a Parker Ultralite 31

[ketch69]

I just go the bow last year and it came with a whisker buscuit rest. Are there others out there that will help me out much more. I kinda like the Whisker Buscuit while I'm coming to full draw. I have a bad elbow so I'm a little shakey on the draw sometimes and don't want the arrow dropping off the rest.

Also what release do most of you use and why? I'm using an old Winn Free Flight glove style deal that need to be replaced.

How about broadheads? I'm shooting Muzzy 100 grain 3 blades. I'd like to try some mechanicals but I'm only shooting 60 pounds. Is this enough for them to operate properly.

Sorry for all the questions, just getting the bug.


DEAN

[earlyriser]

Dean
I have never been a big fan of the biscuit. Just by looking at it makes me think of noise. However I have never shot a bow with one on it so I really dont know how it performs. I would look at some of the drop away rest, I saw huge arrow performance change for the better when I went from a permanent rest to a drop away. As for mechanical heads, you always see this argument about performance. They do shoot like a field point. I have shot the spitfires, they do not have a rubber o ring holding the blades down. Which I like. However I have never shot a deer with them. The majority of my buddies love mechanicals and the rest hate them. Some of the guys have had huge bucks get away due to extreme angle shots that the broadhead just glanced off. Now with a fixed blade broadhead like your muzzy 3 blade 100 grain the broadhead will penetrate. For me I am probably going with the muzzy this year. Also the draw weight, dont have too much draw weight or you wont be able to effectively draw on a deer when in range. I shoot a tru ball release, I believe thats who makes it. Another good release is made by Scott. If you shoot a release I recommend putting a tru nock or one of those ropes on your string to keep from pinching the string to much when in full draw.

[RKOCH]

How does the arrow fall out of a wisker biscuit? It has a ring all the way around that holds the wiskers with just the one open slot for the arrow on the top. I have one and never had an arrow came out not sure how yours is. Mine is very quiet. This is the one I have, is yours made this way also?

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[buckeye]

I use a Golden Key Mirage. It's a fallaway shaped like a V. It is slef centering and does not touch your fletchings. I love it! I shafted an arrow @ 30yds after only using it a week, so that tells me the arrows are flying true!

[ketch69]

The Whisker Buscuit is less noisy than you would think. I'm gonna give a drop away style a try. The Muzzy's won't let you down, I think I'll stick with them also.

RKOCK

No problem with the arrow falling out of the Buscuit, thats why I do like it.


DEAN

[RKOCH]

OK I misread what you were saying.

[Tail Chaser]

http://www.apaarchery.com/apaflash.html

APA Ultimate is another option that works well and will keep the arrow from falling off the rest. They are in Canada although if you give them a call they will most likely be able to ship you direct.

Russ

[buckeye]

As for broadheads that's a crap shoot. I don't use mechanical's because I'm not willing to give up the penetration loss verses conventional. I use 75 Grain wasps on a easton 400 carbon arrow. They work for me!!

[buckeye]

As for broadheads that's a crap shoot. I don't use mechanical's because I'm not willing to give up the penetration loss verses conventional. I use 75 Grain wasps on a easton 400 carbon arrow. They work for me!!

[Tracker12]

I have been using the WB for the pst 3 years on my Hoyt Cybertec and can not think of using anything else. I also use it on the 3D range and have no regrets. By the way I use the size made for the alumnum arrows een though I shoot carbons.

[little bubba]

Dean,
Save your money. What you are using is as good as you can buy. I thought the Whisker-biscuit was a joke until I set up bows for others using it. It was one of the easiest to tune and as far as noise it was very low on the noise scale. The muzzy fixed broadheads are at the top of the list. I've used them for about 15yrs now. Switched to others always coming back to the muzzy. You make the shot and what you have will harvest whatever you are hunting.
Bubba[angel][angel]

[vaflounder73]

Ketch69 the wisker biscuit is a quite rest but i know that it really messes up the flecthes wrinkles them up bad. And that will really hamper your arrow performace. I use a trophy taker shakey hunter drop away rest it has a wide fork that will cradle your arrow as you pull back to full draw. Then copper john makes a drop away called an alley cat. And trophy ridge makes one also that has a nice arrow cradle as you draw back the bow. Those are about the best out thier. Drops are the best rest out thier you have zero fletch contact on the rest which gives you best arrow performace with a proper paper tuned bow. But if you cannot put the bow in front of you and draw straight back then you have you # set to high and drop away rest will not work. The winn free glove is a little old school. I shoot 3-d comps and a lot of the guys in the hunter class shoot scott mongoose thier are several differnt types of this same release but when it comes to this it is like shoes you really need to go down to your local archey shop with your bow and get on the range and try out differnt styles that will work for you scott is a real good performer. Broadheads i have used muzzy for years and never had any problems at all. I did try mechanicals and they did fail the spitfire 100 grain it was a quatering away shot the blade caught and swung the arrow around and made a nasty entrance finally found the deer 300 yards from my stand still half alive. But the again i know people that do ok with them you need to look at your poundage higher the better. Arrow weight and kinetic energy for mechanicals to work proper. Anyway hope this helps any questions just ask.

[seaweasel]

I am deciding between a drop-away or the biscuits also.

1) do the whisker biscuits change with the temperature, like more noise, stiffness, etc when it gets cold? I find that I tune my bow in August when it is 90 degrees and then come late Oct in the mountains when it is 30 degrees out things that can change with the temp, do.

2) Can you shoot a drop away straight up and down?

seaweasel

[vaflounder73]

The only thing i know to change on the bow in cold weather is the string when you sight it in at 90d it has a stretch at 30d it has contracted but it is very minor. And yes the whisker will be a little more nosey at 30d because the vanes on your arrow will be stiff as a weddin di#@. when it is hot the vanes on your arrow are very flexable. The best fletch will for the whisker is feather they are very forgiving but if it is raining forget it. Anyway hope this helped.[grin] As foe the drop away i am not sure on that>

[judge88]

i use a drop away that fully captures the arrow. i had the wisker bisquit but like said before it wrinkled the heck out of my vanes. there a good thought but just a bad design in my eyes. my rest is called QAD ultra rest. (quaility archery deseigns). cabellas sells them. after switching from the wisker bisquit i saw tighter groups right away.

[HOOK1]

I agree with Buckeye.
The penetration seems better with conventional. I wish there was a way to measure the difference.
Also, I tried the rockets sidewinder and didn't think they were that sharp, had to sharpen them right out of the package.
My nephew uses the spitfires and loves them. I have some and might try them, but conventional broadheads work for me. They don't shoot where my fieldpoints do, so I just adjust my sights.
My arrow flight is real good so I don't worry about it. My arrows are over 30". With alum arrows I get a ton of energy. I plan to try
my carbons again this year. I had alot of bow noise with them, so I hunted aluminum. Turned out it was a part on my bowsite
that was loose .

Back to the WB, I've heard there is drawback noise with them. I wonder if shooting carbons thru an aluminum bisket soves this problem?

Hook1

[done workin]

I am shooting Carbon Express arrows through a WB with no problem. Those carbon were roughly the same weight as my old aluminums but a smaller diameter. When shot side by side with field point the carbons routinely penetrated 2" deeper at 25 yds.

I have been shooting sptifires for years and the only problem I have had have been because of poor shots. One of my friends shoots them with aluminums and has NO problems with pass throughs out to 30 yds. Just make sure you hit 'em in the lungs.
I've blown through 2 ribs at 20 yds and passed clean through only pulling 63# at the time.

I don't think the spitfires perform as well on the marginal shots, dense muscle, shoulders, etc. Bottom line don't hit 'em there like I do.