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JimRockfish
01-06-2007, 09:38 PM
Skipping church, pray for me.
http://www.cbmm.org/wh_prog_a4ad.html
January 6-7—Ladder back, molds, transom,
Apprentice for a Day Winter 2006-2007 Schedule
We will be building a traditional two-sail crabbing bateau.
LOA 16’ 8”, beam 4’ 7 3/4”, draft 1’ 3”
January 6-7—Ladder back, molds, transom, inner stem.
January 13-14—Transom and stem knees, keel rabbet.
January 20-21—Chines, garboard plank.
January 27-28, February 3-4—Bottom planking.
February 10-11—Keelson, deadwood.
February 17-18—Regular AFAD.
February 24-25—Flip over, frames, centerboard trunk and centerboard.
March 2-4, 10-11—Shear plank, cutwater, breasthook, quarter knees, mast step, deck beams, covering board knees.
March 17-18—Decks, covering boards, seat cleats.
March 24-25—Steaming coaming, thwarts, oarlock pads.
March 31, April 1—Rudder, tiller, oars, spars.
April 7—Regular AFAD.
April 8—Easter – no class.
April 14-15, 21-22, 28-29—Oars, spars, cockpit sole, finish work.
Burchbeer
01-07-2007, 06:46 AM
You go Jimrockfish! You go..........
A sail driven crabbing bateau????????????????
How was this craft used? Trots?,traps were not around then. Curious.
I need to look up bateau. It will probably be something French for boat, or water craft of sometype.
Your project posts have been interesting. At least to me.
JimRockfish
01-07-2007, 12:38 PM
Burchbeer - Thanks for that. I am concerned that I'm swamping the board, so I'm going to back off on the new postings. Bateau is french for skipjack and this boat is a small version of a skipjack, one of the original crabbing boats. - wind-powered. I went to the Maritime Museum this morning but came back early because I'm familiar with what they are teaching today. It's mostly setting up the strongback, which they call a ladderback in the Chesapeake Bay region... and shaping the stem. I signed up for sessions dealing with building the centerboard and box, masts, etc. The young guy who is teaching said he already has the wood (Douglas Fir) for the masts, which are 20 ft. fore and 15 ft. aft. This should be a really cool boat. They found a great piece of solid cherry for the stem and worked on that some yesterday. The resident apprentices had to loft this baby from scratch because all they had was one simple drawing, no plans. That impressed me. One of the older guys who was in the lofting class next to us at Wooden Boat School this past summer said he regretted taking the class because it was so boring and he preferred hands-on. However, I'm going take the lofting class next year, so I can learn to build boats from the ground-up. I'm an old jr. apprentice. Jim
here are some links I found...
http://www.mariner.org/chesapeakebay/waterman/wat005.html
http://www.mdsg.umd.edu/CQ/V02N1/side1.html
http://www.loc.gov/shop/index.php?action=cCatalog.showItem&cid=14&scid=163&iid=3149
seastallionmate
01-08-2007, 02:58 PM
Burchbeer - Thanks for that. I am concerned that I'm swamping the board, so I'm going to back off on the new postings.
By all means keep it coming! I have had an interest in boat building since I was little. This just gives me a fix until I'm in the position to start on my first one!
That would have been interesting to see/participate in the lofting!
How long are the classes (time). I may have to convinces the wife to go shopping in St Michaels one Saturday Soon!
Do they have builds often?
-D
JimRockfish
01-08-2007, 04:56 PM
Dave (right?) - The classes are every weekend and the people teaching them are generally young apprentices who are pretty good but not professional instructors. The classes are every Saturday and Sunday from 10-4 but you can stay for an hour or 6 hours. You can't complain about the price. I was biting my tongue yesterday morning when one of the participants asked the instructor if lofting was necessary. I wasn't crazy about the answer because while he's right - it's nice to learn lofting but it's not required. Maybe if you're a purist. You can order hundreds of ready-to-build plans that have already been lofted-designed for you. Building a boat is no magical thing, I'm discovering. One important principal to learn, is about using battens and achieving "fair lines." That's using your eye to ensure that curves are symmetrical and attactive. If I were you, I would take a class through Wooden Boat in Brooklin, Maine. It's a beautiful place to visit, my wife loved touring while I was in class and we can't wait to return this summer. I also sail and they have a whole fleet of (wooden - of course) sailboats that you can take out in the evenings at no charge. Jim
seastallionmate
01-10-2007, 02:11 PM
(Actually, Dennis:D ) but usually go by D.
I will definitely look into going to some of the early CBMM classes. I would love to take some of the skiff classes ion Maine, but most of them are during prime offshore season, and I will have to work. I think that I may start a small project first before jumping into the Simmons. Maybe a canoe/kayak or maybe the lumberyard skiff. I don't have the room yet to build the Simmons and I wanted my boy to at least watch if not participate in the work. Hes only 7mos now. I think I may also get the plans and start the floors, stem and moter well? and set them aside until I have the room to build the strongback and begin the rest of the work. We will see, but your postings have got me fired up again! Thanks for that! Oh my wife thanks you too:o
-D
JimRockfish
01-10-2007, 05:08 PM
D - Let me know if you decide to start building pieces. That makes total sense and I'll be glad to help you. I'm worried that if you build a lumber-yard, you may not feel like building a larger, more usable boat afterwards. There's a very big difference. You might want to build the 20 ft. Simmons, http://www.oldwharf.com/ow_simmons.html it's an amazing design and incredibly sea-worthy for rough chop and getting out there. I studied boat designs for a long time before deciding on the Simmons. I like the 18 because I have a 21.5 ft. Seaswirl Striper. The 18 is better for crabbing, very good for fishing but I particularly like it for where I go because of the 5" draft. My grandsons are 5 (in 2 weeks) and 3 1/2, so I can spend time getting the Simmons really top-notch. Don't worry about taking the course, just do what you're doing, keep studying, make a binder and keep the dream alive. I love every minute of the project and have discovered that I also want to continue boat-building. Ref. Wooden Boat School in Brooklin... Look up Stonington, Deer Isle and Blue Hill, Maine. Those little towns are simply awesome, nothing like anywhere else in the U.S. I had lobster every other night, fixed many different ways. We stayed in Eggemogin Lodge, Brooklin Maine. My wife did sea-kayaking, we went out on sunset cruises, etc. It's romantic and I don't normally score very high in that area, so it's good for the marriage. Jim
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